August 21, 2005
Talk to me.
DonÂ’t miss this one from Rusty. ItÂ’s imperative that everyone knows exactly how our enemy treats itÂ’s prisoners.
See the great conditions they afford us
Yes Democrats all over have figured out things arenÂ’t exactly going very well lately. Yep William Jefferson Clinton has been all over the place all week. Everyone is talking Bill. I picked my favorite Bill quote for the week. Mr. Clinton had asked a friend of his why he had gone over and voted for Mr. Bush. The gentleman, a Democrat and preacher who had in the past Voted for Bill answered Mr. Clinton below is how Bill puts it.
“And he said, not listen to this, Now listen, He said Bill every since you left nobody in your party talks to us anymore. You can’t vote for somebody who doesn’t talk to you”.
Nuff said Bill. Don't forget to post your favorite Bill quotes below boys and girls.
Questions about our southern border. See I'm way far inland so emmigration to me means I get mexican food.
Schwarzenegger has said he supports the actions of his fellow governors but does not think there is a crisis along
CaliforniaÂ’s border...... Tisk, tisk, Arnie. ThatÂ’s not what you said in April.
Sadam gets reflective?
"Where is life without faith and love and the harmony which is inherited in our nation?Â… Â… My brother, love your people, love Palestine, long live Palestine, love your nation," he wrote.
Well then Sadam, how about calling for an end to the insurgency for the sake of the Nation of Iraq?
For sure this week the talk is about this new Democratic glow. Well as you can see from the above story it’s an “if you can’t beat em join em”. Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Speaking of fresh meat the Media and the leftÂ’s mouths are watering at the prospect that the Iraqi Constitution will not make it this week. Around about 1949 another Country was being asked to go ahead and move out of the area of Palestine. That country said it was too early and it had only been five years since the end of WWII. Oh no they can work it out on their own get out everyone said. Anyone care to guess who it was and what happened next? Details?? Intresting comparison though.
Yep got the Yard mowed and cooked out on a fantastic and hot day in America. Thanks Guys. Ok now I got to eat this ice cream.
Updated: In flight music today provided by "Sinatra".
Hat tip: Pam.
Is Kevin Trudeau a con artist.
Yep.
Are Drug companies cons too. Yep. Kevin like most cons uses the truth to suck you in.
says he is a consumer advocate battling the "unholy alliance" of drug companies and government regulators."It's all about money. The drug industry does not want people to get healthy,"
Feisty gets dumped. There you go girl now you got 2 more trackbacks than he does. Want a fatwa sugar?
Oyster requests Beefcake. Well I got you some beefcarrot.
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The whole border thing is
pretty obvious. You plug up one hole in the border, and the illegal immigrants go elsewhere to cross over. DHS's idea of border security is basically playing Whack-a-mole.
Posted by: IO ERROR at August 21, 2005 10:30 PM (HaVXj)
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Howie baby, a fatwa is fine and dandy, but what I want more is you served up with a little chocolate and whipped cream. I'm thinkin' you deserve a freebie.
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August 20, 2005
Images of Dead Terrorist Suspected in Paul Johnson Beheading
Rarely does it please me to post images of dead people. This is an exception. Two days ago the Saudis killed two wanted terrorists, including Saleh Muhammad al-Aoofi (Oufi), the leader of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia. Saleh Muhammad al-Aoofi
was also suspected of involvement in the gruesome beheading murder of American Paul Johnson.
Paul Johnson's head was found in al-Aoofi's freezer:
Saudi security forces have killed al-Qaida's top leader in the country as well as five other suspected Islamic insurgents in gun battles.
Thursday's confrontation took place in the capital and Medina, where Prophet Muhammad is buried, in the first major anti-terrorist sweep since King Abdullah took the throne this month, the authorities said.
Saleh Muhammad al-Aoofi, the kingdom's most wanted man, had been leading al-Qaida's branch in Saudi Arabia for more than two years and was believed to have been involved in the June 2004 kidnapping and beheading of American engineer Paul Johnson.
Weeks after Johnson's slaying, Saudi police found his head in a freezer in an apartment where al-Aoofi had been hiding.
Al-Aoofi's death was the latest victory claimed by Saudi authorities in their crackdown on Islamic insurgents in the kingdom, launched after a wave of deadly attacks that began in May 2003.
Saudi police have killed or captured many of the figures on the kingdom's list of most wanted insurgents, and Abdullah vowed to push ahead with the crackdown when he was elevated to king in early August after the death of his half-brother Fahd.
Earlier today, these images began circulating on jihadi message boards. From what I gather, they are probably of the dead Saleh Muhammad al-Aoofi--the leader of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia-- and Muhammad ibn Abdullah Owaida, but could possibly be Majed al-Hasseri and an accomplice. The men were killed in seperate gun battles this week, one in Medina and one in Riyadh. In any event, good riddance.
Three more al Qaeda terrorists were captured today in Saudi Arabia. It's been a good week in the Kingdom.
Oh, and if you think I'm being insensitive by showing these images, then surely you haven't seen the propaganda video made by al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia of the Paul Johnson beheading. Click here to see what this piece of human filth was involved in (WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGE).
WARNING: Graphic images below.
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These pics are PG-13 compared to the video of Paul Johnson's murder. Weirdos.
Posted by: tyler at August 20, 2005 09:04 PM (t+GZI)
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Let's face it. They wanted to die. They couldn't
wait to die. Glad someone obliged 'em. Everyday I pray there really is an afterlife, just so these guys can get their rude awakening.
Also: Hate to nitpick, but in your first paragraph "the leader of al Qaeda in
Iraq" should read Saudi Arabia
Posted by: Oyster at August 21, 2005 07:13 AM (YudAC)
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Insensitive? I wish I could eat my breakfast every morning with pictures of dead jihadis. You need to show more of these.
Posted by: Carlos at August 21, 2005 10:34 AM (8e/V4)
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Ever notice the scenery around these pics looks roughly like it is out of the Flintstones?
Posted by: Kstumpf at August 21, 2005 05:59 PM (6fL6K)
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Yea the paul Johnson thing was the .0002 seconds I talked about the other day. The Nepal things was bad too. nasty.
Posted by: Howie at August 21, 2005 08:31 PM (D3+20)
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I didnt look but Im glad he's dead.
Posted by: Jane at August 21, 2005 09:58 PM (M7kiy)
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Is that guy split in half? Neat. Did a tank blast him or did he blow himself up?
Posted by: A Finn at August 22, 2005 04:02 AM (cWMi4)
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Saudi Arabia....that's what I freakin meant to say. He was probably sawed in half with a hundred AK-47 rounds.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 22, 2005 08:02 AM (JQjhA)
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Interesting email sent to me...
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Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 22, 2005 09:18 AM (x+5JB)
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Correct answers:
1. b 2. c 3. c 4. b 5. b 6. a 7. c 8. b 9. b 10. c 11. c 12. b (<=this one is 100% certain =P) 13. a
Posted by: A Finn at August 22, 2005 02:27 PM (lGolT)
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I thought it was the 72 virgins that killed
Daniel Pearl.
Posted by: Butch at August 22, 2005 03:36 PM (Gqhi9)
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What's blacked out in the second pic? Did you black out bloody entrails???
Damn censorship.
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 22, 2005 05:07 PM (KncNC)
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Bomb Plot to Blow Up U.S. Embassy in Manila Thwarted, Suspect Free on Bail
A bomb plot by an al Qaeda linked group in the Phillipines was foiled earlier in March of this year but the details are just beginning to come out. Other targets included the British and Australian embassies. Note that the suspect is
free on bail.
Manila Standard:
Authorities earlier this year thwarted a plot by Islamic militants to mount a truck bomb attack on the US embassy in Manila, National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales told AFP yesterday. The plot by the Jemaah Islamiyah would have involved "an attack on the US embassy using a 1,000 kg truck bomb," Gonzales said in an interview.
He said the explosives were recovered after Daud Santos, a Muslim convert who is allegedly a member of the JI-linked Abu Sayyaf Group, was arrested in a police raid in Manila in March.
Also eyed as targets were the embassies of Australia and Britain, key antiterror allies of the United States, Gonzales said. He said Santos is now free on bail, highlighting Manila's failure to pass an antiterrorist law that would enable the government to hold terrorist suspects for longer periods.
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Oh, that's just lovely. Let's let him out so that he can perpetrate more crimes against the western world.
Posted by: RepJ at August 20, 2005 05:49 PM (ywZa8)
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But he was out to kill whitey. That's not a crime, is it? ;-)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 20, 2005 05:50 PM (JQjhA)
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Hmm....
If he's out on bail, I'd assume the CIA has people watching him...
Perhaps he'll lead us up the food chain?
Posted by: Clint at August 20, 2005 11:26 PM (v9PD0)
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Short shits have short memories.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 21, 2005 06:24 AM (CBNGy)
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I hear that Jemaah Islamiyah is passing out matchbooks that say “I shall return” on the cover.
What a joke to think the war on terror can be fought and won in the civil courts of the world.
Posted by: Brad at August 21, 2005 09:59 AM (6mUkl)
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This could be the start of a new beginning.
Catch the assholes. While in custody, plant a
gps signaling device up their ass. Let them give
us money for bail. Then set them loose. Once
he leads us to his buddies, we move in, kill
him, grab his buddies, and start over. Of course
since he is dead, he can't show up for court, and
the ragheads forfeit the bail. Cool.
Posted by: Butch at August 22, 2005 03:39 PM (Gqhi9)
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Why is he free on bail he should be kept in prison till his trail whats stopping him from skipping the country or planning a attack on our manila embasy
Posted by: sandpiper at August 23, 2005 08:01 PM (Suq7y)
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Hot Babes of Comic Con

Close on the heel of our our popular Star Wars Geeks We'd Love to Date post, Flea informs us of a short film featuring the hot babes of Comic Con 2005. Sure they're Canadian, and yes they can't be compared to the hotties at Springfield's twice monthly Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con, and I'm betting that they're mostly paid models, but they are babes and they are at a geekfest--the two things we are uniquely qualified to speak on. Images from the video below.
WARNING: While the images are not offensive, they may cause extreme embarrassment and blushing as you slowly shake your head and think, "I can't believe that hot nerd actually wore that."
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So what you're saying is people who look like that get PAID to go to this stuff? Huh. Apparently I could be making a lot more money than I am now.
Posted by: Feisty at August 20, 2005 08:47 PM (HN2eF)
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Slave Leiea was H-O-T !
Posted by: slickdpdx at August 20, 2005 08:52 PM (6mUkl)
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For more pictures in high res of this Comic Con visit http://amigacam.net.tc
Posted by: MiRRoRMaN at August 21, 2005 03:14 AM (RrvcC)
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whoa you people are really geeks. You would get laid more often if you listend to music like U2. I should know cuz my band is the best U2 tribute in the world. Check out our web site and see whats it about.
Posted by: Hollywood Bono at August 21, 2005 04:01 AM (R4pOj)
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Padme look alike?
Ummmm...have you seen Star Wars before?
And Boner, no-one that listens to U2 gets laid. Much less the band itself, who has been playing the same chords for 20 years...
Posted by: The Hollywood Blondes at August 21, 2005 05:13 AM (vJJ7n)
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The girl who's in the first shots is Christy, she does quite a few conventions, and doesn't get paid, sadly... She should
How do I know? Went to High School with her, not a best friend, but a friend...
Also, Not Canadian...
Posted by: The_Scribe at August 21, 2005 05:45 AM (1iL55)
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How 'bout a little beefcake for us girls? You sexist pigs ;-)
Posted by: Hollywood Oyster at August 21, 2005 07:21 AM (YudAC)
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That one Asian chick is cute... The other ones can wear paper bags. Nobody wants a piece of that.
Posted by: madmagickdotnet at August 21, 2005 08:59 AM (MFniu)
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I think you meant you know Lara Croft. Evidently you don't, though.
Posted by: Blah Blah Blah at August 21, 2005 10:09 AM (5aSAF)
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Welp folks, tis true the Comicon hotties are indeed some fine eye candy, but that doesn't hold an oz of water next to the Booth Babes of E3. next year, gecth'yer credentials, get in, be amazed.
Posted by: SpongeaBob at August 21, 2005 10:50 AM (DPMy7)
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Hi Rusty. Some of those pics have been hotlinked by Fark, and it's chewing up quite a bit of bandwidth. It will probably die down in a couple of hours, though, and it's doing wonders for your sitemeter.

Not a problem if it's levelled off by morning, just thought you should know.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 21, 2005 11:14 AM (ymzzr)
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Christy's a plain jane. Any bag of antlers would look 'hot' in that get up. It's the outfit that's sexy, not the woman.
Posted by: notamisandrist at August 21, 2005 12:03 PM (+c5dB)
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The hot Catwoman is part of the Gotham Public Works crew....Check out their Harley Quinn YOWZA!
www.gothampublicworks.com
Posted by: That Girl at August 21, 2005 02:50 PM (Rqvu1)
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http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2676039
Here's a link to a film that features some of these ladies.
Posted by: Crocodile at August 21, 2005 03:30 PM (GZWEX)
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The Hollywood Blondes
The outfit is tre Leia... I'd say "Padme look alike" is quite accurate, though, if you actually look at her face. *shrugs*
Posted by: Daniel Ross at August 21, 2005 04:51 PM (ngGvz)
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Dr. S--
Please forgive me if you are either familiar with this site, or if someone has sent it to you before, but I trust that you are well aware of the INTERNET gem Leia's Slave Bikini website?
http://www.leiasmetalbikini.com/buy.html
Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge
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Posted by: Editor, The J.E.I. at August 22, 2005 08:12 AM (cf5qF)
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Indeed Scribe, she should be paid. Regardless, she is a great friend and still cute, even without the costume on.
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Posted by: r at August 22, 2005 03:49 PM (y0fHE)
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"Science fiction geek gay. And I mean the good kind of gay--two chicks."
i'm a fag, and a guy, and I appreciate your wonderful comment... girl + girl = good, guy + guy = bad! you're a boon to mankind.
Posted by: evan at August 22, 2005 09:46 PM (QSYRo)
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Sy Snoodles could belt out a song and oola was a great dancer
Posted by: sandpiper at August 23, 2005 08:03 PM (Suq7y)
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I'm surprised no-one's pointed out yet that Ms Croft's first name isn't Laura.
Posted by: Gem at August 28, 2005 04:28 AM (V2Vhv)
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Who's the asshole saying he's me. He must be from one of the many shitty U2 tributes who's jealous of me as I am the best, but that's besides tha point. I would never write something so stupid. People who know me know I don't talk like that, (the childish getting laid comment). Piss on ya! P.S. You'll never sing as good as me so get over it.
Whoever maintains this site, would you please take the post down. I'm gonna keep writing shit about this asshole til it's down.
Posted by: Hollywood Bono at August 31, 2005 03:10 AM (B6Gay)
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No, the Military Does Not Know How to Win the Propaganda War
Via
Glenn Reynolds, this from
Michael Yon. It's sad that our military does not understand how to handle the flow of information from Iraq. For all the great stories Yon brings us, I was surprised to learn that many more are suppressed.
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I've been advocating for massive ammounts of pro U.S. propoganda. We need to be dropping leaflets and basic supplies all over the country to get total support from the average Iraqi.
We should be commandeering television/radio stations and just make use of basic information warfare tactics. I haven't seen much if any coverage of any sort of attempts to reduce enemy morale. We've got the resources to annihilate these people in the info warfare and propoganda war.
I don't think we are though, it's sad and worries me a litle bit.
Posted by: tyler at August 20, 2005 05:00 PM (t+GZI)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 20, 2005 06:08 PM (JQjhA)
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Our government has had a mortal fear of propaganda since the 1950's, which, coincidentally, was about the same time that Soviet moles infiltrated the government and media in massive numbers. And everyone though Krushchev was kidding when he said he would conquer us without firing a shot...
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 20, 2005 11:25 PM (0yYS2)
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Information Warfare and Security is a very interesting book. It focuses a lot on network and computer security but also touches on information warfare tactics used during the Gulf War. The book is extremely easy to read, anyone would understand it.
Moles are inevitable though, it's hard for me to believe that proven info warfare tactics wouldn't be employed today due to mole worries.
Even in the 50's it would seem silly to not take certain actions because there moles working in your agency. I shouldn't really speak of what I don't really know though. I think my mother was still in college in the 50's.
Posted by: tyler at August 21, 2005 12:38 AM (t+GZI)
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Another thing I've wondered about too is why we have so many websites and publications compiling statistics on our fallen soldiers or Iraqi civilians and no one has done the same with how many terrorists have been taken out or blown themselves up. Someone should have graphs, dates and names if possible. They should have monthly followups on "key" operatives eliminated from the gene pool. (Rusty is good on getting us the info on "key" operatives) Otherwise, the only info we get on any of it is sporadic and slipshod. Hell, when a suicide bombing with one or more terrorists involved occurs and they give us a count of the dead, they include the terrorists and you're left wondering how many were innocents. For instance, one accounting last year by major news outlets said their was a massive death count somewhere of 49 dead at once. Later, we find that 27 of them were terrorists!
I think sometimes our government wants to lose. They suck at keeping us informed with actual data to counter all the hype and propaganda the disgusting and traitorous media puts out.
Posted by: Hollywood Oyster at August 21, 2005 07:49 AM (YudAC)
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Speaking of propaganda, I was at a Presbyterian college for a wedding Saturday, and in one student services building I found islamic apologetic propaganda, and how-to books for radicals and demonstrators. Unfuckingbelievable. If only people knew they were speding 30K a year to get their kids indoctrinated into hating their country.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 21, 2005 07:17 PM (0yYS2)
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Tyler, it's not that the actions are not taken out of concern for moles, but that moles warn against taking that action and work to discredit it.
Ask yourself why the press considers it unethical to embed with US forces, but gleefully pays "stringers" who are actually jihadis for posed photos and staged attacks.
Posted by: Robert Crawford at August 22, 2005 06:57 AM (1j9aH)
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Moles should be easy to spot. If we didn't have any muslims here we wouldn't have the problem.
ISLAM OUT OF AMERICA.
They bring nothing but problems. They contribute nothing to our society,
Posted by: greyrooster at August 22, 2005 06:59 PM (OvTKg)
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Al Qaeda Using Internet to Terrorize (Link to video)
If we are to win the war on terror, our first task must be to end jihadi propaganda. As long as our enemies are allowed free reign in the media, we cannot win. We have been following this story for years and it is not a new al Qaeda strategy. What is new is 1) al Qaeda is using the strategy in a more coherent way and 2) some in the media are catching on to the tactic.
News 24 via Robert Spencer and Charles Johnson:
An al-Qaeda linked-group has launched what it calls a media jihad, or holy war, to "terrorise" United States-led forces in Iraq and their families by bombarding them with e-mails and by posting gruesome photos online.
The group, calling itself the "Brigade of Media Jihad", called on its militants to "post terrifying pictures on the internet in order to terrorise the enemy", said a statement on an Islamist website whose authenticity could not be verified.
"Our objective is to undermine the morale of our enemies, dash their hopes and dreams and reveal the truth of what is happening in Iraq. The media war is an integral part of the war on the ground," said the statement.....
The online statements are often accompanied by video to provide proof of bombings, kidnappings and killings.
The brigade claims to be part of the "World Islamic Media Front", which has uploaded on to Internet sites footage of military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places where Islamist militants operate.
Last week, it posted a film, Top Ten, in which it showed a selection of attacks on US troops carried out by the Islamic Army in Iraq and the al-Qaeda organisation in the Land of Two Rivers, the group of al-Qaeda frontman Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
I have seen the Top Ten film reported in the article.
You can download the video here (see August 17th).
SITE:
The Jihad Information Brigade issued their second statement today, August 19, 2005, claiming that they disseminated their propaganda about the “reality of the defeat facing Allah’s enemies in Iraq,” to approximately 1,600 websites and e-mails, including more than 60,000 people in the military, including their families, and “some of the public figures.” Further, the group alleges that the people in receipt of their messages were “frightened” by the news of the “reality which their sons are living in.”
The Brigade states that their goal is to unveil the reality of the situation in Iraq, which is allegedly covered up by the “conspiracies prepared by the infidel countries.” On March 7, 2005, the Jihad Information Brigade issued their first statement, boasting of sending similar messages to soldiers and their families in a variety of languages, with the goal of demoralizing the soldiers and “break the grasp of the Jews over the media.”
Also see
Chad at In the Bullpen.
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Demoralize who? What they mean is piss me off more. Just tore more pages from the pissed on copy of the Quran I keep it in the barn. It's too filthy of a book to keep in the house. I have two barrows and one hampshire gilt that love to shit on the pages. I give them a few each day. Once a week they get a special treat. A picture of Osama.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 21, 2005 06:33 AM (linwh)
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GreyRooster: Email some of our jihadi friends pictures of that. We should all be emailing them pictures of all dead terrorists (the more gruesome, the better) we can find. Two can play that game.
Posted by: Hollywood Oyster at August 21, 2005 07:58 AM (YudAC)
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You see, jihadis are cowards by nature, and this sort of thing would intimidate them, and may work on liberals, who are also cowards by nature, but any real American is only going to be motivated, and slightly amused, by such crap. They should know that once enough people in this country decide that they've had enough of their BS, there won't be a safe place for a muslim anywhere inside the US.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 21, 2005 07:19 PM (0yYS2)
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How does this differ from what our press and the left (but I repeat myself) do?
Posted by: Robert Crawford at August 22, 2005 06:48 AM (1j9aH)
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I can see myself being arrested for knocking the shit out of some asshole muslim who just told me he is glad that 9/11 happened. I'm sure I would get more time than the BTK killer. New York times would make me a star.
So far the best I've done was whack a female on one the head with a tomato. Tried to whack her husband with an apple but he ran away and left his wife to the wrath of tomato throwers. Must have been a islamic warrior who didn't wish to be a martyr that day.
Did the greyrooster and friends do something bad? Dress like the enemy, act like the enemy, you get the tomato.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 22, 2005 06:51 PM (OvTKg)
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Beuracratic Culture Caused 9/11
Organizations and institutions have cultures. Cultures set boundaries for acceptable behavior. Who do you blame when an institution's culture directly led to 9/11? The Clinton Administration and Jamie Gorelick are too easy targets. Cultures are not created overnight. They take years to develop into routines that are followed without a second thought. To claim that a single memo and a new Adminstration could change a culture is to overlook mountains of research on bureaucratic behavior.
Clinton and Gorelick should both be blamed for reinforcing and bolstering an institutional culture that limited the sharing of intelligence with law enforcement, but that culture has deeper roots. Its foundations are in the institutional design laid by Congress dividing intelligence gathering from enforcement and in the Carter Administratian's over correcting of perceived Nixon era abuses.
Even so, the Clinton Administration and Jamie Gorelick did nothing to correct this culture. In fact, all indications are that they made things worse. But making a dysfunctional culture worse is a far cry from claiming that they are responsible for creating the culture.
This story, told by an veteran Intel. operative over at Captain's Quarters, is precisely the kind of thing one would expect to hear from a bureucrat working in any number of government agencies. For some reason, though, we expect this kind of behavior at the DMV, but not the FBI, CIA, or DIA. We all hope our Intel agencies are run by characters resembling 'M' from the James Bond movies. Unfortunately, it seems, our Intel agencies have been run by those who have more in common with Patty and Selma Bouviere, the twin sisters of Marge Simpson who man the window at the Springfield DMV, than MacGyver. Captain's Quarters:
"Yeah," the head DIA guy said, a bit sheepishly, "they are DIA, but theyÂ’re a different part of DIA and we canÂ’t talk to them." [That's the only quote from the meeting where I recall actual words spoken.]
We blinked a few times, and then all consideration of terrorism was dropped from the task. But not before it was pointed out that we and DIA werenÂ’t really counter-terrorism experts [although we were threat assessment experts], that the problem was probably being worked by so-&-so and such-&-such, and that they probably had better data, more experience, more resources than we did.
That is what Clinton and Gorelik's Wall culture did. It just didn't just prevent more effective cooperation and data sharing; it prevented the whole question of terrorism being addressed in a coherent fashion at all. No one was working the problem effectively, but I bet they all thought -- just like we were told – that someone else was. That’s the "I thought you brought the matches" school of intelligence analysis, and that was the end effect of Clinton's intelligence policy: it turned the whole process of intelligence into one big game of "Who brought the matches?"
And on 9/11 we found out who: Al Qaeda brought the matches.
Read the whole story.
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I agree and disagre. First agreement. Carter castrated both the CIA and FBI 27 years ago. They have been staffed by geldings ever since; with a very feble attempt to put men in between 1981 and 1988. So in that sense the culture of ineptness has been in control for almost 3 dedades. (I have seen nothing that indicates we are really geting the deadwood out of either of these agencies. Lots of talk but action is hard to find.)
Disagreement. As Ashcroft pointed out almost 18 months ago "The Wall" absolutely made the passing of Able Danger's info along. Had they done it back in 00 they would have been Court Marshalled and sent to jail about the time of 911. Anyone who has been an officer in the Armed Forces can tell you they had no choice. Officers follow orders. Even dumb one from highly placed ill informed civilians.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 20, 2005 07:12 PM (03F0I)
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Rod: How do you fire an incompetent government employee hired years ago. Impossible. The democrats know this an go on hiring sprees whenever in office. They also single out certain groups of people that they believe will remain loyal to them. Right or wrong.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 21, 2005 07:05 AM (linwh)
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Actually, the blame should be spread out even farther than what you suggest. The American public stood idly by, too, while they demanded that the government protect us while tying their hands behind their backs. They lost all sense of what's important. To them it was important to amend the Constitution to give us abortion rights, but not to allow the government to pry into the affairs of those who would do us harm. You know, civil liberty and all that? Civil liberties they felt should be extended to everyone and anyone entering the country regardless of their agendas or from whence they came. Unless, of course, they were Jewish.
Througout the Clinton era, more than once I remarked to friends that with our military being gutted the way it was we were a prime target for attack or invasion. I didn't want to be right.
Posted by: Hollywood Oyster at August 21, 2005 08:16 AM (YudAC)
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Fifth Column
International leftwing Culture
Example
LEFT-WING teachers have created a "dangerous" anti-American bias in Australian schoolchildren
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/costello-alarm-at-antius-teachers/2005/08/21/1124562751557.html?oneclick=true
The seeds of are destruction are being planted in the minds of children
Posted by: Al Azif at August 21, 2005 01:21 PM (P48Jd)
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Bureaucracy pollutes all levels of government. Different divisions in the same city do not talk with each other because of turf wars. County and City governments do not cooperate...millions are wasted year, just here in NC alone...I have seriously been considering trying to find funding to research waste in public works/utilities moneys due to this sort of thing...but I make money off of it as it is....and it would piss people off...maybe when I get closer to retirement.
Posted by: Mr. K at August 21, 2005 07:18 PM (BqOOc)
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What nobody seems to mention is the original motive for the Clinton/Gorelik wall. There has been speculation that the the real reason for the wall was to stop or hinder any FBI/CIA cooperation in the investigation of the Clinton Chinese campaign contibtution scandal and a possible connection to inappropriate technology tranfers. The closer you look the worse they look.
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Taliban Reemerging In Afghanistan: Lessons for Iraq
Regular readers of the Jawa Report will know the Taliban never really went away, they only went into hiding. Now, the MSM is beginning to pick up on the reality of the situation on the ground. Two of the main anti-Iraq war points are clarified by the facts on the ground in Afghanistan.
A) If only we had gone in with a larger coalition things would be better. Far more countries are in Afghanistan than Iraq, which is now a NATO-led security operation.
B) If the U.N. had been put in charge of rebuilding, things would be better. The U.N. is in charge of reconstruction in Afghanistan.
C) The Bush Administration doesn't have an Iraq exit strategy. Well, what is our Afghanistan exit strategy? We may be in that country just as long or longer than Iraq. Is lack of an 'exit strategy' a valid reason to oppose a war?
D) The Bush Administration did not sufficiently plan for post-war nation-building? And the U.N. has done a much better job in Afghanistan?
From what I gather, there are only two main differences between Iraq and Afghanistan which explain the much lower level of violence in the latter country. First, the resistance in Afghanistan today is basically the same resistance that we fought nearly four years ago. Remnants of the Taliban and their foreign jihadi armies have consistently fought us from our initial invasion to the present. The vast majority of these fighters understand that they were defeated and there is no hope of victory. Armies with no hope of victory soon lay down their weapons. I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of Taliban partisans in Afghanistan today are foreign jihadis or newer recruits that had little involvement in the fighting of four years ago.
In Iraq, we are fighting a different army and a different war. In our initial invasion we fought the Iraqi Army and Baathist partisans. Today we are fighting domestic and foreign jihadis. Those we fought in the invasion were trying to keep the Hussein regime in place. Today we fight a new enemy which has a goal of creating a Taliban like state in Iraq.
The Baathists and Iraqi regulars which we fought in our initial invasion know that we won and that they have no hope of ever coming back to power. They saw the awesome power of U.S. military might and are in no hurry to face that might again.
Those that we fight today, though, are religious extremists with a very different outlook. Combine this worldview--which like their Taliban brothers sees an inevetable victory for Islam--with their consumption of alternative media images which portrays the U.S. as losing in Iraq, and you have a highly motivated army. They fight because they think they are winning.
The second difference is the sheer number of boots on the ground and the urban setting of Iraq. We just have far more targets in Iraq than we have in Afghanistan and the jihadis in Iraq have a far easier time of hiding in urban centers. While many analysts claim that we need more troops on the ground in Iraq, it may very well be that we have too many (this is a disputable point and one which I am willing to change if more information comes to light). More troops would only help us win in Iraq if those troops could demoralize our enemy while simultaneously wipe out media images that portray U.S. soldiers in a negative light and which claim that we are losing. Until our enemies believe that cannot win, they will continue to fight.
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I've often thought we shouldn't be overly anxious for the Arab media to stop broadcasting their delusional accounts of victories over the US forces. As long as they are fighting us, it is easy to recognize who the enemy is. Sure, IED's etc. make life dangerous for our troops, but as long as these guys keep poping their heads up and our soldiers continue to turn them into pink mist, were atriting them down. Once enough of them are killed, the fighting will end.
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Shouldn't We Exchange Insurance Information?
First off, thanks to whoever updated my earlier post. Stupid job, don't they know I need to blog?
Thanks to Tim at Opinionbug.com for sending me a link to the Jordan News Agency (Petra) where I found these gems:
His Majesty King Abdullah II on Friday
condemned the accident of firing Katyusha rockets in Aqaba which
resulted in martyring a Jordanian soldier and wounding another.
The King checked, during phone calls with the Regent, Prime
Minister and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on the situation
in the city of Aqaba after the explosion of two rockets that
targeted Princess Haya Military Hospital and a warehouse of the
Jordan armed forces.
(headline)Abbas Condemns Aqaba Terrorist Accident
No mention of the Navy ships, or the fact that one landed in Israel.
But, it doesn't matter, it was an accident. Move along, nothing to see here.
Maybe I'll be a little nicer to our media from now on. Heh.
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The rockets were accidentally fired from the top of a warehouse.
The Jordanians are now looking for some Egyptians and Iraqis who fled in a Kuwaiti-registered vehicle.
They must've just been some guys getting some fireworks ready for Labor Day weekend and had an accidental discharge! Yeah, that's the ticket. Jesus, for all the lying Arabs do, they sure as hell aren't any good at it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 20, 2005 08:15 AM (0yYS2)
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Yeah, you'd think they'd be better at it by now.
Posted by: Oyster at August 20, 2005 08:41 AM (YudAC)
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BTW, the title is perfect.
Posted by: Oyster at August 20, 2005 10:04 AM (YudAC)
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Accident my ass. Just like Pearl Harbor only the Japs knew what they were doing and the Muslim do not.
Posted by: Jo macDougal at August 20, 2005 04:31 PM (LbyCD)
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Who are you/they trying to fool?
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 20, 2005 07:32 PM (03F0I)
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308878: Hey, does anyone know where I can find a list of gas stations with low prices in my area?
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Sheehan Motivating the Media
Absolutely positively my last post on Cindy Sheehan.
A good chunk of the media and basically all of the "usual suspects" are calling the game from the same playbook. Cindy Sheehan is a grieving mother who's selfless dedication arises from a deeply held belief that the war in Iraq is wrong, the administration is totally inept and our boys are dying in an ill concieved endeavor.
They are sparing no effort in the attempt to characterize Ms. Sheehan as the personification of the American Mother who has lost a child to war, America's mom so to speak. They further attempt to promote the perception that Ms. Sheehan represents a sunstantial number if not a decided majority of the Soldier Moms in this country; "If only they had a voice they'd be saying the same thing as Cindy" and other such pajorative speculation. They are even referring to her now as "Mother" Sheehan in an effort to perpetuate this belief. The marketing campaign has been professional albeit not all that convincing, somehere between the launching of a new $125.00 an ounce Chanel fragrance and an infomercial for steak knives.
Any criticism of this fine women is labelled as a vicious right wing attack on the very institution of motherhood itself. ( Bill Johnson Rocky Mountain News "The influential and powerful in this country feel free to attack and belittle a woman who lost a son in the war and now refuses to remain silent in her grief, pretty much tells you everything you need to know of 2005 America".) They rationalize the cheerleading because it is after all for mother, country and apple pie.
It's pie alright, steaming cowpie and it's nothing about substance and everything about smoke and mirrors. Ms. Sheehans persona is a spectre created in the fertile minds of the far left pacifist peaceniks, MoveOn .Org and the media. In Cindy Sheehan they have created a caricature of their collective selves.
Ms. Sheehan is anything but a "typical" mother. She has been active in far left fringe organizations since well before the invasion of Iraq was a glint in George Bush's eye. She now aligns herself with such "mainstream" organizations as TrueMajority and Democracy for America, MoveOn.Org, Code Pink Women for Peace, United for Peace and Justice, Veterans for Peace, Michael Moore, etc etc.
Some of her more notable statements:
1. This country is not worth dying for.
2. Yes, he (Casey Sheehan) was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel.
3. When asked if she would feel any different if Casey had died in Afghanistan, she replied: I don't think so, Chris, because I believe that Afghanistan is almost the same thing...... we should have gone after al-Qaida and maybe not after the country of Afghanistan.
4. After their meeting she commented "I now know he's [Bush] sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith.". Subsequently, she has said that Bush treated her callously during the meeting and acted as if it was a party atmospere.
5. "The biggest terrorist is George W. Bush."
6. "I want to meet with the President to ask him why he killed my son"
7. Sheehan says she considers Lynne Stewart her Atticus Finch
8. "It’s OK for Israel to have nuclear weapons but we are waging nuclear war in Iraq, we have contaminated the entire country. It’s not OK for Syria to be in Lebanon. Hypocrites! But Israel can occupy Palestine? Stop the slaughter!“
There's plenty more, but I believe the point is made. Other than maybe 5% or so of the population that could use serious psychiatric help, nobody honestly believes that Ms. Sheehan is anything close to representative of a typical American mother, grieving or not. I do believe that certain people on the right went a bit far pontificating on her divorce and tax payment defaults. That smacks of smear and it's not needed. Ms. Sheehan has poked enough holes in her own boat.
Contrary to the prevailing media talking points, the fact that she has had a terrible loss and is grieving by no means immunizes her from scrutiny or constructive criticism nor should it. Ms. Sheehan chose to exploit her present situation to highlight her ideology and further her agenda.
If she insists on sparring in the public arena of politically weighty issues, she better expect to get nailed with a few jabs. God forbid we should use her own words against her.
The media somehow feels that Ms. Sheehan's opinion should carry more weight than the average American. Somehow, because of her loss she is eminantly qualified to make social commentary on the legitimacy of the Iraq war. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's because of her loss that her judgment and rational are skewed by strong emotion making her opinions particularly suspect and unreliable.
Ms. Sheehan has proven through her statements and actions that she is an enigma, the miniscule exception rather than the rule. What her motivations are I don't know nor do I particularly care. She couldn't be any more wrong regardless of how noble or despicable her motivations may be.
The motivations of the Entrenched Media, however are known and predictable. They needed a poster child for the antiwar movement and found one in Cindy Sheehan. A useful idiot with the added bonus of being a true believer. You can alomost hear them muttering, "Holy Crap, these stories just seem to write themselves". Expect them to hold onto her like grim death.
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Rusty...did you see the Rasmussen poll?
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dude, your website is going the route of peter jennings..a fast painful death
this new format sucks, and the material is bush league compared to the days of old
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seany boy, your opinion is vastly superior to the rest of us and I'm sure Rusty will take your advice to heart and immediately change everything to suit your delicate sensibilities. Can you suggest some different, more pleasing colors or a better format? Better yet, perhaps you can get Chomsky or Churchill to do a guest post for us. That would be exciting.
Posted by: Oyster at August 20, 2005 08:52 AM (YudAC)
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You are so self contradictory! You see it troubling that any criticism of Sheehan is "is labelled as a vicious right wing attack," but then you go on to claim that "Ms. Sheehans persona is a spectre created in the fertile minds of the far left pacifist peaceniks, MoveOn .Org and the media."
Let's replace one ridiculous conspiracy theory with another ridiculous conspiracy theory.
Surely you can think in a more nuanced fashion than the repetitive whining about "liberal media" and "the left."
Posted by: Jdog at August 20, 2005 01:16 PM (Rm85L)
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You can't deny that the media has given over 21,000 reports on Sheehan while giving little or no coverage to mothers who have lost children who have a totally different view, or that moveon.org, Code Pink and various other extreme left wing organizations have taken up her cause, given her a strong, internet-based platform and even placed a PR firm at her disposal. I mean, really. C'mon, Jdog. That's not conspiracy. It's right in everyone's face.
If the far left can say "I support the Troops" without supporting their cause (which makes no sense to me, personally) then surely the right can say "We understand her grief" but do not support her agenda.
Posted by: Oyster at August 20, 2005 01:42 PM (YudAC)
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I don't know where your figures are coming from, but in print papers there seem to have been 410 articles (Lexis Nexis). If you count web print, 8740 (Google News). Magazines 38 (Lexis Nexis). News transcripts 197 (Lexis Nexis). Wire services 348 (Lexis Nexis).
That seems very shy of 21,000. And trust me letters/opinions/editorials printed in the daily papers show a greater amount of negative opinions, from questioning her motives, to calling it "dishonor" to her son. So much for "liberal" media bias. Only some papers have included responses to these conservative or pro-war criticisms of Sheehan.
What is particularly noteworthy is the fact that many of these pieces were penned by the very women you say are not getting coverage: mothers and wives of fallen soldiers, who do not support (nor understand) Sheehan.
Supporting the troops, not the war seems more a liberal perspective, than the "far left." The far left can no longer see great differences between democrats and republicans anyway. Yet, isn't that the point in this blog? To collapse democrats and Marxists into one neat category = "left."
It is a shame that once a leftist protest actually gets covered, moveon comes in and appropriates it.
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It is a shame that once a leftist protest actually gets covered, moveon comes in and appropriates it.
MoveOn is a subset of the Left but guess what? It's man is in the chair of the DNC. Its talking points get picked up quickly by the MSM.
IIRC it was a MoveOn type that claimed ownership to the Democratic Party. Get used to it or fight it.
Your original note Jdog is interesting. Surely you understand the statement made by Harry Truman? If you can't stand the heat to get out of the kitchen? Cindy didn't walk into the kitchen she stormed into it. Maybe she did not start out with MoveOn and CodePink et al (Cindy and the two groups mentioned prior are also adamantly opposed to what went down in Afghanistan despite direct connections to 9/11 and broad international support) but she is not kicking them out and their
language is very close match.
When the MSM points out Cindy's comments about the Joooooossss and how she hates America (hey, then why not leave? Surely she will be welcomed into Palestine) as well as her demands to meet the President then we can talk about balance.
Hey, did you know David Duke is in her corner? She is a priestess marrying the ideals of David Duke and Michael Moore. That is grotesque.
If there are typos most likely they are due to the fact this post is coming from a Mickeysoft system at another house. I miss my linux!
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius at August 20, 2005 11:09 PM (4rhYe)
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Bullshit: David Duke says he doesn't know who the bitch is.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 21, 2005 07:13 AM (linwh)
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Jdog: I'm not going to argue with you on how many reports there were. She has been mentioned on TV news a lot more than 197 times in the past (over) two weeks. The last I'd heard was over 21,000 times. I don't care how many "transcripts" there have been written. If I can watch one news channel for a little over an hour and see three separate mentions of her by different people I can only wonder how many there are on all the news channels 24/7.
"So much for liberal media bias"? You ARE kidding right? For every conservative-biased point brought up in the media, not including the internet, there are considerably more liberal-biased reports. Any time one conservative message goes out I hear the same thing - "So much for liberal media bias!" Without a doubt, the liberal media overwhelms the conservative every day.
Posted by: Oyster at August 21, 2005 09:17 AM (YudAC)
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Sheenan has a big akin to DADID DUKE and HANIO JANE
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http://sitealansar66.tripod.com/
Who could possibly be responsible?
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You get on that Internet and click click click
/TJ
Posted by: TJ at August 19, 2005 03:24 PM (PL7dL)
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Rusty, I assume you know about
http://haganah.org.il.
Anyway, they track terrorist websites and dig up useful info on them (mostly whois info). Really neat. We need a group of people to go through their lists and deface all the sites...
Had I not gotten in trouble for various activities 5 years ago, I'd be all over it.
Posted by: tyler at August 19, 2005 03:26 PM (Y9Lwb)
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I've known about Aaron's Internet Hagganah for some time, and frequently link him. He's the inspiration for my proposal for hacker privateers.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 19, 2005 03:35 PM (JQjhA)
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Dale Gribble - pest exterminator.
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German Court Sentences 9/11 Terrorist to 1.17 Days per Victim
(Hamburg, Germany) The Hamburg State Superior Court found Moroccan citizen Mounir al-Motassadeq, 31,
guilty of membership in the 9-11 terrorist organization and sentenced him to seven years in prison, less than half the 15 years imposed on him in 2003 verdict that was overturned.
From Expatica.com:
Presiding Judge Ernst-Rainer Schudt ruled that Motassadeq had been the "polite, friendly, reserved" member of an eight-man terror cell. Led by an Egyptian, Mohammed Atta, it formed in the German port city of Hamburg in autumn 1999.
"From being friendly, nice young men, they turned into fanatics," said Schudt. Motassadeq had "gone along" with this, not dissociating himself, and had taken over administrative tasks for the group.
Three of the cell members including Atta later piloted hijacked planes that were used as missiles on September 11, 2001 in attacks on New York, Washington DC and Pennsylvania. U.S. President George W. Bush declared a "war on terrorism" in response.
"The complete picture shows the accused to have been a member of a terrorist organization, but not to have been an accessory to the murderers of September 11," said Schudt.
What a bunch of crap! So what if he was polite, friendly, and reserved? He was a co-conspirator in 3,000 deaths on September 11, 2001. In fact, if he took over "administrative tasks," he effectively managed the operation. This make me sick. Motassadeq deserves nothing more than the pitch darkness, extreme coldness, and concrete hardness of a prison cell for the rest of his life.
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UPDATE: As Lawhawk notes in the comments of a related post, that's 1.17 days per victim for Mounir al-Motassadek
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those damned Germans. I can't see how they rationalize that sentence. still jealous and bitter after all these years? still harboring an intense hatred of the jews, no doubt.
Posted by: slanderpants at August 20, 2005 04:22 AM (jWaQK)
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Nice to know that my life is worth 1.17 days in jail for my killer. Thanks for clarifying that, Germany.
Posted by: Oyster at August 20, 2005 08:55 AM (YudAC)
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Maybe their courts are as sissy as ours. Shut up and by that German luxury car. I did.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 21, 2005 07:33 AM (CBNGy)
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Maybe their courts were set up and copied after our liberal cry baby legal system.
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BTK killer gets easy life in prison after torturing and killing 10 innocent people
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Bali Bombing Mastermind's Sentence Reduced from 4.5 Days in Jail Per Victim to 3.8 Days in Jail Per Victim
Our
allies in the Global War on Terror
have reduced the jail sentence of Abu Bakar Bashir (Ba'asyir), the mastermind of the Bali nightclub bombing, by 4.5 months. Bashir, it will be recalled,
had been sentenced to 30 months in an Indonesian prison for his role as leader of the terrorist group that killed 202 civilians in the Bali nightclub bombing. 88 of the 202 victims were Australians.
Bashir will now spend 25.5 months in prison.
That's about 765 days.
That's 3.8 days per victim.
Indonesia routinely sentences drug dealers to death by firing squad.
Another admitted terrorist involved in the mass murder at Bali was once spotted at the local Starbucks. They hate terrorism so much that Indonesian narcotics and drugs Brigadier-General Gorries Mere decided it would be a good idea to spring the terrorist from his jail cell and stroll down to the neighborhood cofee shop. Don't worry, though, after the terrorist in question had his fill of Double Latte Mochachino, he was promptly returned to prison.
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Ah, but that's slightly better than the 1.17 days per victim for Mounir al-Motassadek, who was convicted in Germany for being involved in the Hamburg cell of AQ. This was the outcome in his retrial. He was originally found guilty of being an accessory to the murder of 3,000 Americans in the 9/11 attacks.
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contrast that to the sentence of 20 years given to the aussie babe for smuggling pot into indonesia...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/05/27/marijuana-aus050527.html
i guess its just ok to blow up infidels.
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Newt in Iowa and Liberalism 3.x
I just heard Newt on CSPAN giving a speech that sounded to me like a dry run of his Presidential campaign. He was asked, on a scale of 0 to 10, what the odds are that he'll run for President. He responded that it was somewhere between 1 and 10, which got a laugh. But... it's not zero! To my practiced political ear he seems closer to 10 than 1. For all practical purposes he's running for President now, and the only issue is whether he'll withdraw at some point before November, 2008.
He expressed his thoughts on a number of critical topics, from health care to the "Long War Against Irreconcilable Islam." To me, this sounds like the much awaited Liberalism 3.x. In this view Iraq is just a "campaign," although a clearly important one to us and to the Jihad. I'd also say that if Iowans are getting the idea that we're losing in Iraq that's understandable if their source of information is Mainstream Media. But the odds that Mainstream Media has it right this time are demonstrably zero. (See Michael Yon's thoughts on the inept way media covers the war.) That doesn't mean we're winning "The Long War," though. In fact, I don't think we are. We're essentially attempting to fight Totalitarianism 3.x with the institutions and attitudes typical of Liberalism 2.x. But our military is rapidly making the transition to Liberalism 3.x, and if Newt gets his say the rest of the country may soon follow. I'd vote for him. I thought his presentation was excellent, and I think he has an answer for those discouraged about Iraq, immigration, the economy, etc..
A Newt candidacy also counters what Democrats feel are their main strengths. He's a conservative intellectual, which flies directly in the fact of the standard characterization of Republican candidates. Also, if his recent appearances have helped Hillary harden her foreign policy and defense credentials they've probably helped Newt soften his image even more. He now occupies a policy area that's not really fixed in the liberal-conservative domain. He has new formulae that resolve the primary socio-economic problems that Democrats feel are their proprietary market share. He has the Clintons' wonkishness, but unlike Clinton (either one) he also has a coherent vision and is serious about realizing it.
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Newt in Iowa? He apparently didn't stop here in Iowa City, the apparent liberal capital of the state. (Deep blue county in a blood red state.) Too bad, I'd have liked to hear what he has to say.
Posted by: IO ERROR at August 19, 2005 03:11 PM (HaVXj)
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Yah, I wish I'd have known. I'd have taken off work to go watch/listen. I love Iowa.
Posted by: tyler at August 19, 2005 03:21 PM (Y9Lwb)
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If Dr. Rice does not run I like Newt. But, of all the big GOP names the one for me is DR. Rice. Besides having brains she dresses well. Or as my friends say she dresses good. Either way the good Dr. is #1.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at August 19, 2005 06:09 PM (03F0I)
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Criticizing Bill Clinton; This is where hypocrisy comes in by the bucket-loads. They get pissy when Clinton gets criticized, but gleefully still jump on the Reagan bashing wagon even though he was further in the past. The fact is, I don't care who is the current president. Past presidents' policies are still a strong factor in today's political, economical and social climate and should always be considered when discussing (or arguing) these issues. That's just common sense. This hands-off attitude about Clinton is only because they can't really defend him on so many issues and don't want to be called to task.
I'm hoping for Newt's success because I don't trust McCain and Hillary is out of the question.
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Who is there besides McCain? Is Kinky Friedman running for the wrong office? We Republicans need a super star. In a hurry. Hillary will be defeated but the other democrats are just as bad (almost).
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Kill Them All, Let Allah Sort Them Out
Muslim scholar gives big thumbs up to murdering children. Here's what he said on a TV station run by the terrorist organization Hizbollah in Lebanon. Yes, terrorists actually have their own TV stations in Lebanon.
MEMRI:
"Islam is the religion of life in general, and not a blind religion. Islam does not surrender to foreign aggression. So stating categorically that Islam is a religion of love that rejects violence – This is a big lie. 'Take them and kill them wherever you find them.' This is taken from the words of Allah [the Koran]. About whom? About Allah's enemies. This is violence....
He goes on to say why terrorism is justified:
because it works.
Who said that violence is futile? What happened in Spain?....He brought his people to war. He had to be hit over the head with a large hammer in order to wake up [the Spanish PM]....
Read the rest where he reminds Muslims that all Israeli civilians are legitimate targets and that it is the religioius duty of all Muslims to make war against the U.S.
If we lose in Iraq, we put the world in mortal danger or collapsing into a kind of chaos that has not been seen for a thousand years. Isolationists on the Right and internationalist utopians on the Left should heed this warning now before it is too late. Terrorism against the U.S. would certainly be reduced in the short run. However, the dark ages that will certainly emerge in Iraq if we withdraw has no chance of being isolated. It will spread, and with it ignorance, violence, and repression, until 1/3 of the world is consumed by it. In one or two hundred years, when this cancer has fully taken control of its host, it will look outward again, and our great-great-grandchildren will curse us for not eradicating it while we had the chance.
This is our choice: pay with our lives the price of keeping Iraq out of the hands of Islamic fascists now, or pay with a war on a Civilazational scale later--World War III which has the potential of making the last two World Wars seem trivial.
Hat tip: Beth at My VRWC who has more.
(Oh, and my meetings got out early.)
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Wow, bout time one of em just comes out and says it. We should send him a nice shiny new buttplug, just because.
Posted by: tyler at August 19, 2005 02:27 PM (Y9Lwb)
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Rusty, read
Michael J. Totten's piece dated 8/12. He spells it out very slowly for the dummies who think if we just leave all will be well and they'll stop bothering us.
Posted by: Oyster at August 19, 2005 02:30 PM (fl6E1)
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The only thing better than no meeting is meeting over.
Posted by: Howie at August 19, 2005 02:33 PM (D3+20)
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...or pay with a war on a Civilazational scale later--World War III which has the potential of making the last two World Wars seem trivial"
As Conan O'Brien said once,
(...Euro coin from Finland. Finland
'our Muslim extremists are too cold to go crazy', so... not my problem.
In case someone gives a damn, I'm not against the war in Iraq, I'm against dragging so many other countries in it with you. Now they're being targeted by fanatic monkeys because you didn't tell them to stay out of your war.
Posted by: A Finn at August 19, 2005 02:43 PM (lGolT)
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I'm afraid, Finn, that the war is on your doorsteps already, but that you just don't realilze it yet. Today Iraq, tomorrow Sweden (huge problem in Sweden as we speak) tomorrow Finland. It's not a matter of 'if' only of 'when'.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at August 19, 2005 04:26 PM (JQjhA)
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Why would they want Finland? No one else does. Our war Fin? Our war because countries like yours don't have the courage to stand up. Screw Finland. The trouble with Finland is that its full of fins. Things that mullets use to get around.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 20, 2005 01:59 AM (CBNGy)
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Rusty: I on your team on this one. May as well get it over with. Or should we wait until Iran and Syria have nukes?
Posted by: greyrooster at August 20, 2005 02:02 AM (CBNGy)
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That descent into chaos is exactly what the "liberals" want. The ones who were part of the Communist movement in the US, anyway.
Remember "The worse things are, the better they are"? They believe that society has to collapse into violent chaos. When things get bad enough, "The Rapture" will occur, and the "workers" will turn on the "oppressors" and massacre them. And, of course, after that, everyone (still alive) will live in a secular utopia, etc. Singing Kumbaya to the sound of secularly made harps.
Sooo, proving what you warn of and proving what we see over in
http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/
will encourage the dedicated. "Hurray, we're winning!"
I hope it will have an effect on the uncommitted and those who have not yet become useful idiots.
Posted by: Phillep at August 20, 2005 09:44 PM (zNjIG)
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Dangit, missed another chance to face The monogrammatic male chicken in real-time Verbal Combat... Oh well, whatever.
Alias of Dale Grib(b?)le: Our Muslims won't go crazy since it's too cold to riot all year and the racial equality laws work both ways around here, and they are based on "treat 'em like they treat you", so if they start getting jihady, getting all crusadey on them stops being a hate crime, so lynching, ethnic cleansing etc... until UN or Amnesty starts bitching about it and then we'll just ship them to Sweden.
Male chicken of unusual color for a chicken: The philosophy of participating in wars that are none of Finlands business:
"Pay up or fight your own war", so why the heck should we fight your war if we get absolutely nothing from it and UN peacecorps already employ all the people who voluntarily fight other peoples wars?
Posted by: A Finn at August 22, 2005 02:54 AM (cWMi4)
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Fins: Things that mullets swim with don't have enough insight to see down the road twenty years. I guess the roads are full of snow so they use it for sand and stick their heads in it for safety.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 22, 2005 06:29 PM (OvTKg)
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The ignorant man (the terrorist)who said this is not a scholar,because our scholar know that their is no such thing in Islam tell the people to kill an innocent human being,in fact Islam prohibits this crime.
i think that those terrorists are hiding threir bad deeds behind Islam , true islam is not like what they are saying (believe me), i know this because i'm a muslim who knows that Islam advocates tolerance ,sympathy.......,but not killing innocent people, or children.
people...we can't just blieve the guys who don't have the authority ,knowledge a bout the religion which says their is only one God.
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Beth Geisel Gets DWI
(Albany, New York) Most people, after finding themselves in a hole, quit digging. Not 42-year-old Sandra "Beth" Geisel. Remember, it's only been a couple weeks since she was indicted for rape of a student in a
high-profile case that has embarrassed and humiliated her children, her husband, her friends, and the Christian Brothers Academy.
Yet today, around 0830 EDT, she decides to drive while sloshed, cuts off a police car, and gets arrested for driving while intoxicated. She blew a 0.13 on the breathalyzer. And this all happened before 9am.
The only explanation I can figure for Geisel's behavior is that she's trying to fortify her contention that the hooch made her commit the rape of a student, or that she's exceedingly stupid. In either case, she's a menace to society.
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I would be suprised if she stops here. Looks to me like she's gonna plead insanity. This should help.
Posted by: tyler at August 19, 2005 01:55 PM (Y9Lwb)
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I think we shouldn't refer to her crime as rape.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 20, 2005 02:04 AM (CBNGy)
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The woman is an alchoholic. Her family needs to get her help.
Posted by: opine6 at August 20, 2005 12:03 PM (YyWmH)
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She is a danger to herself and those around her, and apparently has been for some time.
Her behavior is not rational and has not been since at least early this year, possibley longer.
She is mentally ill, whether it be extreme addictive behaviors, some sort of extended manic episode or what, and strong mental health measures need to be taken.
Posted by: LTR at August 21, 2005 07:31 AM (iiunC)
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Gee wheez: Such a tantrum. Terrible crime. Only thing that happen was that the victim got willfully laid. Exactly what he wanted.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 22, 2005 06:23 PM (OvTKg)
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This woman needs help. As a parent myself, I would never leave my kids in a motel room & go drinking all night & forget about them. She’s made one bad judgment call after another concerning her own kids & so far she’s been lucky, & the kids have not been hurt or killed. But it’s just a matter of time before her luck runs out & these kids either seriously injured, abducted or killed either by direct or indirect negligence of “mom”.
She’s got an alcohol problem & my guess is that she probably felt the calling of the booze, so she left the kids sleeping in the room at around 10 or 11 pm, went out somewhere all night drinking or God only knows what else, then morning came before she knew it, & in her “drunken fog” found herself lost & probably flagged down those that “stranger” for directions back to her hotel & at that time the police got her.
Right now this woman is a danger to herself, others on the road, & if there are kids in her care, she’s a danger to them as well. She may love her kids very much, but b/c her head is not on straight, she is incapable of being a good, responsible parent to those kids. Her husband & the law need to intervene now, before it’s too late, & we are reading some very sad & unfortunately news about her children instigated by their mom’s inability to think straight. So, yes, I agree, her kids need to be saved from her & she needs to be saved from herself. It doesn’t matter what Beth Geisel says, her family need to put their foot down & not allow her to continue to put these kids in danger by allowing her to have them in her care. Those kids could have been killed in an actual fire, & when the law found out they were “neglected” by their mom while she was drunk & lost on the other side of town, that could have added to the list of charges already against her. Thank God, that didn’t happen. She was lucky! The kids were lucky! But luck has a way of running out & one day so could the lives of Geisel’s children.
Posted by: Concerned Parent at August 24, 2005 10:53 PM (d2Jct)
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She leaves her kids alone in hotel room while she is miles away drunk and picking up alleged crack dealers? Where is the limit to the disgrace this woman will bring on herself, the kids and her family? Why doesn't her husband beat the crap out of her for all of this dishonor she has brought down on him? Heck why doesnt he beat the crap out of her for putting "his" kids in danger the way she did? If those were my kids and anyone did that to them, they surely earn a very bad body hurting from me.
Jeff out.
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She leaves her kids alone in hotel room while she is miles away drunk and picking up alleged crack dealers? Where is the limit to the disgrace this woman will bring on herself, her kids and her family? Why doesn’t her husband beat the crap out of her for all of this dishonor she has brought down on him? Heck why doesnt he beat the crap out of her for putting “his” kids in danger the way she did? If those were my kids and anyone did that to them, they surely earn a very bad body hurting from me. I usually don’t condone violence, but I’m sorry, placing “my kids” in danger(even if it’s their own mother) is really where I would just “snap”
Jeff out.
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Uhhhh........I like small bikes!
Posted by: Duh at August 26, 2005 05:31 PM (d2Jct)
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Those pictures (hiccup!)at the top of this blog are not very flattering of (hiccup) me. I, (hiccup) am innocent of all (hiccup)charges. Who picked up(hiccup) my kids?
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Sexual predator lives out high school fantasy?
August 04, 2005 12:17 PM EST
One has to ask the question, how many of these stealthy child predators are working in our schools, both public and private? Sandra Beth Geisel, a wife currently separated from her banking executive husband, is the latest in a continual outing of female child rapists.
Let's deal with some facts out in the open. Women have been having their way with young, underage and inexperienced boys since forever. Obviously, this doesn't happen to every boy, but it happens far more than society would like to admit. What was once seen as some perverse rite of passage (having your virginity taken by an adult female) is now beginning to be seen for what it truly is - statutory rape.
As men, we are going to have to decide that we and the young men growing up around us have value as human beings. We don't want some psychologically-stank pervert deflowering our young daughters, either forcefully or through suave manipulation, and that goes without saying. However, how serious are we about having that same conviction about our sons? Why should their innocence be written off just because they're males?
Yet, that is the message that society sends through its silence and taps on the wrists of female sexual predators. One has to wonder when enough will be enough and parents, family, close friends and responsible members of society will demand that young boys have their youth as zealously protected as that of young girls.
We all know that men have been preying on young girls and women and that's wrong, period. Now, what are we going to do about women preying on young boys - ignore it as we've done in the past or step up and deal with it like responsible adults? I encourage you to write your Local, State and Federal representatives in government and demand that female sexual predators receive the same sentencing handed down to male offenders.
Posted by: I AGREE at August 28, 2005 04:04 AM (d2Jct)
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HowieÂ’s linkfest.
With Rusty stuck in meetings today I thought I might see what I can do to keep yÂ’all occupied. Yeah I love meetings, right up there with having my toe nails pulled out with a pair of rusty old pliers.
Pakistani Schools still teach terror.
Iraqi Election Update:Sunni leaders are pushing their people to register to vote; the terrorists are threatening anyone who tries.
Big Brother Plates. This is one British export I can do without.
Special interests Fight ArnoldÂ’s Initiatives.
SmokinÂ’ Teachers.
Survival of the fittest or sometimes natural selection is not what you expect. Look for the big green bug.
A stem cell breakthrough I think we can all live with.
On the lighter side hereÂ’s some quotes sent to me by my conservative Christian cube neighbor David.
Hat tip: David (no he doesnÂ’t read the blog heÂ’s on Drudge all day)
Hard work never killed anyone, but why give it a chance? (unknown)
Ya gots to work with what you gots to work with (Stevie Wonder)
Winston, you are drunk. - Lady Astor - Yes my dear, but you are ugly, and in the morning I shall be sober. (Churchhill)
A good one I ran across today.
To obtain a man's opinion of you, make him mad.
--Oliver Wendell Holmes
Britney Spears baby names.
ItÂ’s gonna be a hot one and I got to mow and also I think IÂ’ll cook out to keep the kitchen cooler.
Pitbulls VS The Holy Qu'ran - You know you want to look!
Hat Tip: princesskimberly.
I'm sure Rusty will be back soon. So everyone have a great Friday. I like how my master says at the beginning of the week. Now I'll not be able to blog much. Then he puts up more than I can read.
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A popular Des Moines Barber shop had a new robotic barber installed.
A fellow came in for a haircut. As the robot began to cut his hair it asked him, "What's your IQ?"
The man replied, "130." So the robot proceeded to make conversation about physics, astronomy, investments, insurance, and so on. The man listened intently and said, "This is really cool."
Later, another gent came in for a haircut and the robot asked him as it began the haircut, "What's your IQ?"
The man responded, "100." So the robot started talking about football, baseball, and so on. The man thought to himself, "Wow, this is really cool."
Later on, a third guy came in to the barber shop. As with the others, the robot barber asked him, "What's your IQ?"
The man replied, "70." The robot then said, "So, I understand you Democrats are really excited about Hillary running for president?"
Posted by: eyerocker at August 19, 2005 12:15 PM (oGV8O)
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Another great Churchill/Astor exchange:
Lady Astor: "Mr. Churchill, if you were my husband, I would put poison in your tea!"
Churchill: "Madame, if I were your husband, I would drink it!"
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Pitbulls VS The Holy Qu'ran - You know you want to look!

http://princesskimberley.blogspot.com/2005/08/infidel-puppies-vs-holy-quran-woof.html
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at August 19, 2005 01:54 PM (8sXP/)
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Wook at the Widdew puppie wuppies. just a wittle baby.
Seriously though that new puppie my wife got me is no a lab mix. I told her no more bull dogs no time. Maybe still mixed but he's got attitude. Not fetchey wetchy but mine mine mine chew chew chew I dare you to take it.
Posted by: Howie at August 19, 2005 02:04 PM (D3+20)
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A gentleman went to England for his vacation. He spent one evening hitting all the pubs he could find, drinking beer after beer. He then decided to take in some of the sights, but before long realized he needed a bathroom. He had no luck finding a public bathroom so he slunk down a dank alleyway and about around to make sure he wasn't being observed.
As he pulled his zipper down an English Bobby tapped on his shoulder and said, "Sir, you cannot do that here." Well the man was embarrassed and apologized, but explained his predicament to the bobby. The Bobby then said, "I understand. Follow me." He then led the man down a few more streets and anothr dark alley to a gate. He said, "You can go in there, sir."
As the man entered the gate he found himself in a beautiful garden. All the plants and hedges trimmed and all the flowers in perfect bloom. He though, "Wow. This is great." So, with the bobby's blessing, he did his business and went back out the gate.
When he came out, the bobby was still there. The man said, "That was wonderful. So that's what they call English hospitality?"
The bobby replied, "No, sir. That is what we call the French Embassy."
Posted by: Oyster at August 19, 2005 02:39 PM (fl6E1)
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A city slicker came to visit Grandpa on the farm.
He asked what are all those little round things on the ground?
Why those are smart pills, said Grandpa, try one.
The city slicker tried one and got a strange look on his face.
What's the matter asked Grandpa?
Tastes like shit, Said the city slicker.
See you're getting smarter already Grandpa Replied.
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Missed Me Missed Me
now ya gotta, eh, nevermind.
AMMAN,
Jordan (AP) - Unknown assailants fired at least three missiles from
Jordan early Friday, with one narrowly missing a U.S. Navy ship docked
at port, an attack that killed a Jordanian soldier. One missile fell
close to an airport in neighboring Israel, officials said.
Further down in the story they say it was a mortar, which isn't a missile, but, that's the informed media for you. It's neither here nor there anyway. No matter what was fired, the firees should be bowing towards the black rock in gratitude that they missed.
We'll file this under Not A Wise Thing To Do At This Point In History.
UPDATE: Al Qaeda implicated. More coverage at Terrorism Unveiled. Moonbat tracking here.
Other Resources: Dan Riehl, T. Longren, OTB, Hyscience, La Shawn Barber, Glittering Eye, In The Bullpen, Conservative Thinking, Political Teen and many more.....
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Should we maybe take a little comfort in the fact that this was the best they could come up with, and not something like a Cole-esque style of attack?
Posted by: Venom at August 19, 2005 09:45 AM (dbxVM)
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Most definitely. I gave a hearty "phew!" when I read that this morning. But, once the feeling of relief goes away, then we get to make fun of them for being lousy shots.
Posted by: Mad Dog Vinnie at August 19, 2005 09:57 AM (Kr6/f)
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Who is selling them the missles? We should send them a grant.
Posted by: greyrooster at August 19, 2005 01:22 PM (CBNGy)
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It's good to see the Gaza appeasement hasn't encouraged them or anything.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at August 19, 2005 01:24 PM (0yYS2)
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Are they tring us? they missed becuase our ship was too far out
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Clarance Thomas Redux
At least that's what the lefties are trying to make out of the John Roberts confirmation hearings. Once again, they are attempting to put him on trial for his beliefs. The only difference is that with Thomas they tried attacking him with things that are actually illegal. This time, they're so hard up to find anything that they can use on him that they're simply attacking the fact that he might not agree with them.
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Not content to stay on the political sidelines shouting their opposition to John Roberts' nomination to the Supreme Court, the National Organization of Women (NOW), a leading abortion advocacy group, wants to testify during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings slated for September 6. The organization, which testified in 1981 in support of the nomination of outgoing pro-abortion Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, has formally requested to testify at has formally requested to testify at the Roberts hearings. NOW President Kim Gandy sent a letter to Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican. "After a thorough examination of the available record of the nominee, NOW has concluded that his confirmation represents a danger to many of the rights for which we have worked so hard," Gandy wrote in the letter. "To confirm John G. Roberts to fill the seat [O'Connor] held for 24 years would jeopardize [abortion rights]."
I think that spells out pretty clearly what they are trying to do. Of course what they are doing, at least in my eyes, is revealing themselves for exactly what they are. A politically motivated group who cares nothing for the good of the country as long as their agenda is forwarded as much as possible.
Come to think of it, the abortion industry has to be the most radical, extreme group that I've ever come across. Nearly every other group that you can think of in the United States accepts boundaries and government restrictions on what it can and cannot do. Certainly anything that may be dangerous does. And yet when restrictions of any type, even basic safety standards, are placed on abortionists, NOW, NARAL, Planned Parenthood and the ACLU scream, cry and whine like their world is ending. I'm fairly certain at this point that Roberts will be confirmed, just as Thomas was confirmed before him. Hopefully he'll give these extremist groups the good, hard does of reality that they all so richly deserve as well.
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Since the Bar Assoc. has given Roberts their approval, Leahy is saying that the Bar Assoc. is unreliable. However, when they gave other justices (read: liberal judges) their approval, Leahy called them the "gold standard" by which judges are judged. Now, is that hypocrisy or stupidity? I forget.
Interestingly enough, Thomas got the lowest rating from the Bar.
Posted by: Oyster at August 19, 2005 06:33 AM (YudAC)
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". Once again, they are attempting to put him on trial for his beliefs."
Imagine that. Caring what the supreme court thinks.
Posted by: actus at August 19, 2005 08:02 AM (nYnig)
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Drew: I hear you,. NOW, Naral, and Planned Parenthood are ther Triumverate of Terror, especialy for the unborn children of our country. Evil incarnate.
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 19, 2005 09:58 AM (x+5JB)
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As far as IÂ’m concerned, if Frist wants to continue as Majority leader and Spector wants to continue as Judiciary Committee chair, they had better produce a Supreme Court Justice out of this nominee.
This majority in the Senate and the mandate from the last election is to be used. If the ACLU, NOW, Planned Parenthood and NARAL can succeed in telling America that a person who attends Church and believes in God is not acceptable as a Supreme Court Justice, we will loose the only opportunity we have to balance the Judicial branch in this country.
Frist better be ready to fight to win, if not, he should be thrown out.
Posted by: Brad at August 19, 2005 10:11 AM (6mUkl)
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Yes, actus, because we all know that his personal feelings and beliefs are so much more important than little things like our laws and the constitution. After all, his feelings are exactly what he should be basing his decisions on.
/sarcasm
We've had 15 years of justices basing decisions on feelings instead of the law, and look at where it's gotten us. I think I'd prefer a justice who actually reads the Constitution for a change.
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Government mandated separation of Church and State?
Alabama 1901, preamble.
We the people of the State of Alabama, invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish the following Constitution...
Alaska 1956, preamble.
We, the people of Alaska, grateful to God and to those who founded
our nation and pioneered this great land.
Arizona 1911, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Arizona, grateful to Almighty God
for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution...
Arkansas 1874, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Arkansas, grateful to Almighty God
for the privilege of choosing our own form of government...
California 1879, preamble.
We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God
for our freedom.
Colorado 1876, preamble.
We, the people of Colorado, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of Universe.
Connecticut 1818, preamble.
The People of Connecticut, acknowledging with gratitude the good Providence of God in permitting them to enjoy.
Delaware 1897, preamble.
Through Divine Goodness all men have, by nature, the rights of worshipping
and serving their Creator according to the dictates of their consciences.
Florida 1885, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Florida, grateful to Almighty God for our constitutional liberty, establish this Constitution...
Georgia 1777, preamble.
We, the people of Georgia, relying upon protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution...
Hawaii 1959, preamble.
We, the people of Hawaii, Grateful for Divine Guidance, establish this Constitution
Idaho 1889, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Idaho, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings.
Illinois 1870, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Illinois, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.
Indiana 1851, preamble.
We, the People of the State of Indiana, grateful to Almighty God for the free exercise of the right to chose our form of government.
Iowa 1857, preamble.
We, the People of the State of Iowa, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of these blessings, establish this Constitution.
Kansas 1859, preamble.
We, the people of Kansas, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious privileges, establish this Constitution.
Kentucky 1891, preamble.
We, the people of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties...
Louisiana 1921, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Louisiana, grateful to Almighty God for the civil, political and religious liberties we enjoy.
Maine 1820, preamble.
We, the People! of Maine, acknowledging with grateful hearts the goodness of the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe in affording us an opportunity... and imploring His aid and direction.
Maryland 1776, preamble.
We, the people of the state of Maryland, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberty...
Massachusetts 1780, preamble.
We, the people of Massachusetts, acknowledging with grateful hearts,
the goodness of the Great Legislator of the Universe... in the course
of His Providence, an opportunity and devoutly imploring His direction.
Michigan 1908, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Michigan, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of freedom establish this Constitution.
Minnesota 1857, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings.
Mississippi 1890, preamble.
We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to
Almighty God, and invoking His blessing on our work.
Missouri 1845, preamble.
We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness establish this Constitution.
Montana 1889, preamble.
We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty,
establish this Constitution.
Nebraska 1875, preamble.
We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom. establish this Constitution.
Nevada 1864, preamble.
We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom establish this Constitution.
New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V.
Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.
New Jersey 1844, preamble.
We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors...
New Mexico 1911, preamble.
We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty.
New York 1846, preamble.
We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.
North Carolina 1868, preamble.
We the people of the State of North Carolina, grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those.
North Dakota 1889, preamble.
We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain...
Ohio 1852, preamble.
We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common.
Oklahoma 1907, preamble.
Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty, establish this.
Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2.
All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God
according to the dictates of their consciences.
Pennsylvania 1776, preamble.
We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance.
Rhode Island 1842, preamble.
We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God
for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing.
South Carolina 1778, preamble.
We, the people of he State of South Carolina, grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
South Dakota 1889, preamble.
We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties... establish this.
Tennessee 1796, Art. XIIII.
That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience...
Texas 1845, preamble.
We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging, with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.
Utah 1896, preamble.
Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.
Vermont 1777, preamble.
Whereas all government ought to... enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man.
Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI.
Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator, can be directed only by Reason and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other.
Washington 1889, preamble.
We the People of the State of Washington grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution.
West Virginia 1872, preamble.
Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God.
Wisconsin 1848, preamble.
We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility.
Wyoming 1890, preamble.
We, the people of the State of Wyoming, grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties establish this Constitution.
After reviewing acknowledgments of God from all 50 state constitutions, one is faced with the prospect that maybe, just maybe,
the ACLU and the federal courts are WRONG!
"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."-William Penn
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at August 19, 2005 11:00 AM (x+5JB)
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